EC mulls proxy voting in election law changes - The Election Commission (EC) is studying the possibility of implementing a proxy voting system that would empower individuals to cast ballots on behalf of other registered voters.
It (the FB status) was actually a veiled but mild sarcasm on the Election Commission's plan to amend the election laws so that a proxy can be elected by a voter to cast the vote on his/her behalf.
For a seasoned voter (since 1984) I find this suggestion very disturbing and disgusting, to say the least.
The EC chairman Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Mohd Yusof said the proposed amendments, would likely be presented to the Cabinet next month and, once approved, should be implemented in time for the 13th general election.
He gave an example that in Toronto, Canada, where the proxy voting system is being implemented, allows voters to surrender their votes to others living in the same constituency. However, the proxy voter is prohibited from voting on behalf of more than two registered voters, and an application for the privilege must be made a day before polling.
After reading the report, without anticipating I responded my friend with a sarcastic note: next election saya malas nak pi 'buang undi'. Kalau ada wakil pembangkang nak jadi proxy, saya nak offer dia 'buang undi' untuk saya jika dia sanggup bayar RM1000. Kalau BN pulak nak charge berapa haa...?
I think he got angry about my statement or was afraid that the response could fire up other inflammatory responses, and deleted it.
My point is, this exercise is a total sham and would unnecessary expose the voting process into a 'market place of vote buying and selling'. How can the EC or the authorities control voters if they decide to 'sell' their vote for a price and how can anybody stop the person or party who is competing in the election from 'buying' these votes in the pretext of helping to vote for the voter?
Simply ridiculous!
The report gathered 80 comments as of publish time. I am reproducing them (without permission) here so that you don't have to click anywhere else to read them :
What a joke! In Malaysia it can lead to massive fraud. lets not compare our 'democracy' with that in canada. First EC must earn its respect and show that it is independent, the rest after that
Malaysian · 18 hours ago
Malaysia is becoming a sham democracy...
How easy is it to 'create' votes...The man of the family can now officially vote on behalf of his aged father and mother who can't travel to the polling centre to vote, and then for his wife because she purportedly needs to take care of the children, and also on behalf of his recently turned 21 daughter and son because they are not immature enough and don't know the voting process...
What a mockery of our constitutional rights...
How easy is it to 'create' votes...The man of the family can now officially vote on behalf of his aged father and mother who can't travel to the polling centre to vote, and then for his wife because she purportedly needs to take care of the children, and also on behalf of his recently turned 21 daughter and son because they are not immature enough and don't know the voting process...
What a mockery of our constitutional rights...
EXECUTIVE % · 15 hours ago
WHY THE SUDDEN MULLING OF INTRODUCING PROXY VOTING IN THE ELECTION LAWS ?? OR IS THE EC CHAIRMAN PLANNING TO EXTRACT THOUSANDS OF UNREGISTERED VOTERS FROM THE NRD and put them into umno prepaid proxies list in each constituency ??? AS SPELLED OT BY UMNO PRESIDENT AT PWTC,,IT WILL DEFEND PWTC AT "ALL COST" --even through undemocratic means ///
Jaq · 17 hours ago
If this proposal ever made to the Election system, rest assured it will always be manipulated for the existing government to remain in power.
I would propose the Election Commission to tie-in with NRD and use thumb print to register & vote. If implemented correctly, fraud will be almost non-existance, eliminating human error. Those living abroad, can vote by visiting the respective Malaysian Embassy.
This system can easily be set-up, using existing NRD database and existing IT infrastructure. It will also drive IT penetration nationwide.
I would propose the Election Commission to tie-in with NRD and use thumb print to register & vote. If implemented correctly, fraud will be almost non-existance, eliminating human error. Those living abroad, can vote by visiting the respective Malaysian Embassy.
This system can easily be set-up, using existing NRD database and existing IT infrastructure. It will also drive IT penetration nationwide.
SUPREMO X · 17 hours ago
EVEN WITHOUT the electon law changes, EC is already too famous for its "phantom" and untraceable voters..Without proxy votings, the EC is already facing the "enormous"task of solving voting irregularities.,, SO WHAT IS YOUR REAL AGENDA OF AMENDMENTS FOR PROXY VOTINGS AFTER 53 YEARS ?? UMNO SURELY DON'T NEED PROXY VOTES TO WIN ??
I have a feeling that if EC goes through with this, it's just IT. Malaysians will come out of their houses. Bersih 2 will make Bersih 1 seem small in comparison.
Have Corruption · 20 hours ago
This will definitely help those with deep pocket. I will sell my vote for $1000. Any buyers?
jasper · 20 hours ago
After this is implemented, we will see BN total votes doubling or tripling in the next general election. And it would not surprise if one day we get bar from voting cause someone else had already help us cast our vote for BN.
Jason · 20 hours ago
They can't even do postal votes transparently, and cannot explain about phantom voters. Can they expect to do proxying right?
No one would be surprised if theyl find that someone has cast a vote in their names and that vote went to BN.
No one would be surprised if theyl find that someone has cast a vote in their names and that vote went to BN.
Dr. Pang HC · 19 hours ago
UMNO mau main tipu lagi...
Umno already know they cannot win in the coming GE13 to rule the Federal Govt, so they have to resort to a possible fraud voting system. Umno know only Umno party is able to win some seats while the other components like Mic, Mca and Gerakan are totally without any single seat. They already foresee there is no more hope of Umno able to defeat the Pakatan Rakyat in the coming GE13.
anonymous · 19 hours ago
Another desperate attempt by a desperate regime to cling to power at all cost.
Law · 19 hours ago
EC might as well declare Umno a winner without having a proper election and said "they have been told by the public they want umno to continue to be in power ! Why put on all this farce ??!!
Can't even do simple basic stuff properly and impartially want to talk about proxy votes. pls lah, don't treat us like idiots, b'cos we are not.
Can't even do simple basic stuff properly and impartially want to talk about proxy votes. pls lah, don't treat us like idiots, b'cos we are not.
If the EC can declare Umno the winner, then, Perkasa will seconded the motion and then, that abdul aziz will implement this better voting system rather than thinking about the proxy system.
UMNO knows they wont win so, tipu is the only way to live in luxury while the rakyat continue to suffer.
Now the dead can easily vote thru the cronies of UMNO.
Now the dead can easily vote thru the cronies of UMNO.
cal · 19 hours ago
proxy voting... how about automatic voters registration and postal voting for all those living and working in overseas? UMNO, you're full of tricks, better than the devil.
1PR Malaysian · 19 hours ago
Proxy voting if implemented in Malaysia will result in anarchy. If you want proxy voting, first put a legislation in for automatic voters for those above 18 and above. Even this is difficult to implement, you have the arrogance to say that proxy voting is difficult. BTW, the Election commission is not a referee. The referee is the people. You follow what we tell you by the goverment we elected. In a transparent goverment, we expect you to propose to us what your plan to amend and not hide behind and scheme how to win the elections forever. If the BN goverment wants to play fraudulent, you are no better then some regime in North Korea. Stop the abuse of power and stop fooling us. We are sick and tired of this game.
EC under direction of umno bn getting ready for massive cheating. hope such amendments will not be passed. mp please your duty
Finally, real reason for suspending Anwar and PR's MP is out!
Wow... when this is implemented the massive number of proxy voters would be more than actual voters going there!
So easy to fraud this time. No need to bus loads of hantu voters.
One man can have proxies from a thousand voters ... and if passed it is the law.
ten men can win the entire election.
They are going to steal the election just watch.
So easy to fraud this time. No need to bus loads of hantu voters.
One man can have proxies from a thousand voters ... and if passed it is the law.
ten men can win the entire election.
They are going to steal the election just watch.
Get Real · 19 hours ago
This is just incredible. What would they think of next? Already we have disqualification/rejection on nomination day, infamous power failure during the counting process, restriction in print and electronic campaigning, boundary lines drawn to their advantage and now this.
There is no end in cheating and no shame in doing it too.
There is no end in cheating and no shame in doing it too.
Wake up · 19 hours ago
Looks like BN is looking at ways to win election. Voting is so confidential and allowing proxy sounds more like a joke to the system. Is EC not having enough work that it can think of proxy which is the only kind in the world. More hantu will be voting and the dead will also be voting.
That EC abdul aziz must be one umno proxy from the behaviour of him.
KopiO · 19 hours ago
It's time for Bersih 2 Rally again...
I'm in! If EC goes through with this Malaysians will come out of their houses.
It will be 5-10 times bigger than Bersih 1.
This will upset everyone.
It will be 5-10 times bigger than Bersih 1.
This will upset everyone.
Bolehland · 19 hours ago
Another UMNO dirty tactic to cheat in the General Election after failing to command 2/3 majority in the last (2008} General Election. Very glaring indeed!
If Umno never cheat all these 50 over years, how do they ever win.
nice.. now we can vote for our aunt, uncle, parents, pakcik makcik...
so now umno-bn only have to BRIDE one person ... so "clever" !
so now umno-bn only have to BRIDE one person ... so "clever" !
illuminati · 19 hours ago
In Canada and elsewhere, they don't play hanky panky but in Malaysia proxy voting will definitely be abused to high heaven. Already postal votes have been much abused, all to the advantage of the BN and now proxy votes will add to this advantage for BN.
Tricky fellas, these BN jokers. They are so shameless, trying all kinds of tricks to make sure the Opposition gets no chance to see fair play. This is outrageous.
Tricky fellas, these BN jokers. They are so shameless, trying all kinds of tricks to make sure the Opposition gets no chance to see fair play. This is outrageous.
FFT · 19 hours ago
Aha... another EC dirty trick in the making. Many registered voters will find their names missing from the roll and those who are overseas will become proxy BN voters for sure. Stop the charade please, EC. You are getting dangerous to our democratic system of selecting the government. I hope the opposition will not be cowed over this or they are going to lose millions of votes by fraudulent means.
Fair and square · 19 hours ago
BN so desperate to win by two third majority that they have to come up with this scheme. EC also a joke playing with this same game and calling themselves professional....
According to Democracy Index 2010, Malaysia fall under the category "Flawed democracy", behind Thailand and Indonesia.
No wonder lah!
No wonder lah!
Johnhardick · 19 hours ago
I do not know how worse it can get. Citizens must make a call for the EC chairman to immediately step down for even entertaining this sham thought.
It is no longer an election, it is desperation. Democracy going to the dogs.
It is no longer an election, it is desperation. Democracy going to the dogs.
casey · 18 hours ago
The only way BN can retain control ... widespread legalised cheating.
bbc · 18 hours ago
oh my oh my. another desperate measure by UMNO. You expect major abuses and EC will turn their backs. Afterall, EC has made it clear. Ultimate objective of EC is to ensure UMNO perpetuates its stranglehold on power: no matter how corrupt UMNO is and will be.
How can one verify the authenticity of the proxy when it is given one day before the polls, EC? What about thousands of Msians who are even given the power to vote, EC? Isnt that more important that every msian is given the right to determine the destiny of this country? Your partisanship is clear as daylight.
And why the rush for GE 13? Because news on the ground is that even the rats are deserting UMNO?
How can one verify the authenticity of the proxy when it is given one day before the polls, EC? What about thousands of Msians who are even given the power to vote, EC? Isnt that more important that every msian is given the right to determine the destiny of this country? Your partisanship is clear as daylight.
And why the rush for GE 13? Because news on the ground is that even the rats are deserting UMNO?
This is the greatest con job in Malaysia history...
Tiga Suku · 18 hours ago
Another project by Barang Naik party to have a stranglehold on malaysian politics for the next 53 years. With the opposition politicians suspended, these changes will go through easily. We the Rakyat are forever scroooood.
PM Moey · 18 hours ago
Another way for UMNO-BN to buy votes or to use phantom voters. If EC is sincere, it should first look at allowing overseas-based Malaysians to vote .
bbc · 18 hours ago
If you PR allows this maasive fraud sitting down, you deserve to be kicked out. Get your supporters for the mother of protest against EC, the UMNO appendage for fraud and unfair election.
ashok · 18 hours ago
another desperate attempt of UMNO - finding ways to beat the system so that they could cling on to the national power. In canada the people have something that we don't have. they would not sell their pride and they are generally honorable. IN Asia as someone said that he likes to sell his proxy votes. The first party to buy is Barisan
rusdi · 18 hours ago
This is outrageous...biggest con job in plan
niama · 18 hours ago
Shameless EC chairman A Z what the hell r u trying to do????????Why dun u just open declare BN win all the seatsin Parliment & state.....Even you go ahead to u that we rakyat also can't do anything...Why waste time to do admendments????????
ceekay · 18 hours ago
The election system in Malaysia is similar to the bull fight in Spain.Where the bull is the opposition, the EC is the the panel setting the rules, BN the matador and the public is rakyat. The panel (EC) sets the rule ie give a few spears on the bull (opposition) so that the bull dont have a chance to win. Then in the name of fairness send the bull out (Election) where the matador (BN) after using all their resources to (buy votes,full of goodies to the voters and promises for developments) looks so good. In front of the public (raiyat) the bull is defeated, death. Thats what you so call election in Malaysia, the bolehland!
dont fall for it. · 18 hours ago
This is no good. Proxy voting allows BN to play dirty. They will force the surrender of ICs of people and then voite on their behalf. This cannot be allowed.
But, the Umno think this is the only best way for them to play dirty or else how are they going to win in the GE13.
Pete · 18 hours ago
Gerrymandering did not achieve the desired outcome. Now the EC wants to implement
a proxy voting system.
a proxy voting system.
leeterrytc · 18 hours ago
You should be crazy or NUTS, the election is about our future and also our children future, you think this is company's board director election or assocuation election.
Boomereng · 18 hours ago
Najib wants to win extra big, this must be the way
leeterrytc · 18 hours ago
By the time the proxy will be paid RM5,000.......................
sbhn · 18 hours ago
Their PHANTOM VOTER plan tak menjadi lagi...Now they want to implement PROXY VOTER! Its legal and easier to implement.
DavidHwang · 17 hours ago
One day, voters don't even have to vote. EC staff will vote for you as proxy. Save time, save mone, save campaining. Only BN can win in Malaysia
Hang the EC for suggesting such a criminal rigging of elections by having someone else vote for another. When will continuous evil end in this nation?
dan toh · 17 hours ago
This is a bloody major con job in the making against the rakyat!
If no bloody con job, how do the Umno expect to win in the next general election. The Umno know they can never win in the coming GE13, only the Umno vs the Pakatan Rakyat, where majority of Umno candidates will be badly beaten by the Pakatan Rakyat candidates even in their strongholds in Johore and Pahang.
jay · 16 hours ago
"undi adalah rahsia"...what happen to this slogan....?
ceekay · 16 hours ago
If that be the case (proxy voters). MAKE SURE ALL VOTERS COME BACK AND VOTE. Cos its for the future of our future generations.To scarify one day for our future generations is worth all the while. ALL VOTERS MAKE SURE THERE BE NO PROXY VOTE IN THE 13GE.
damn cheats · 16 hours ago
This is the path to massive election gerrymandering by BN. This cannot be allow to happen.
Overseas-based Msian · 16 hours ago
Please lah EC Chairman, if u want to amend the election laws, do so with suggestions which are ABSOLUTELY FAIR and SENSIBLE e.g. giving ALL overseas-based Malaysians the choice to be postal voters. It is CRYSTAL CLEAR to all but you and your BN backers that the proposed Proxy Vote amendment is nothing but another shameless attempt by BN to hang on to power "at all costs". Where is your "Harga Diri" encik?
his harga diri ? ermm.. i guess it cost around RM20K only.. cheap stuff..
ASGPathy · 16 hours ago
What garbage!
Azli Othman · 16 hours ago
Another scheme to ensure UMNO wins the next election! They can't even do a proper job right now and they want to make it easier for more election fraud.
Faisal Hamdi · 15 hours ago
A vote is a secret matter. Proxies will lead to frauds. As it is the postal votes are bad enough. Does the EC Chairman put on his thinking cap before opening his big mouth and put both his feet in? The trouble with our administrators and politicians is that:-
Cakap dahulu, plan tidak ada
Bila dilancar jadi huru-hara
Ditarik balik dan disemak semula
Apa bolih buat ini perkara biasa
Tiap-tiap tahun begitulah caranya
Sebab ini telah menjadi satu culture.
Cakap dahulu, plan tidak ada
Bila dilancar jadi huru-hara
Ditarik balik dan disemak semula
Apa bolih buat ini perkara biasa
Tiap-tiap tahun begitulah caranya
Sebab ini telah menjadi satu culture.
Law · 14 hours ago
I like your pantun ! Good one !
Faisal Hamdi · 13 hours ago
Thanks Mr Law. Regards.
Warrior · 15 hours ago
May Allah punish this son of a bitch for coming up with this idea to allow more election fraud.
EC abdul aziz what do you mean by one man one vote. Have you step out of line in carrying out your duty. What is the vote that is considered 'secret'. Something must be wrong with you to go for proxy vote.
Have Corruption · 14 hours ago
How much do u think BN is willing to buy my vote?
fairuz · 14 hours ago
13th general election : RM400, by election:RM1000
EC BN'sCrony · 14 hours ago
EC Please don't fool Malaysians by bending rules to help your political master UMNO & BN !!!! Remember one day when PR come to power all of EC corrupt offiers will be held accountable for their corrupt action !!!
Those voters who took BN's money but voted for oppositions during the last election can't do it during the coming General Election. They make sure every ringgit spend will bear positive result.
4RAKYAT · 14 hours ago
u all here just tok kok and make what u think are funny jokes.
i) hv u urself registered as a voter?
ii) hv u urged anyone else to register as voters? if u register in jan2011, your name will only be in the electoral roll by july 2011 --- that's 6 month away. u do the math. feb = aug2011, march = sept2011. if umno calls for ge13 any earlier, there is not much time left.
pls lah, where's the fiery momentum of march08?? hv u all gotten too comfortable?
pathetic. u all.
i) hv u urself registered as a voter?
ii) hv u urged anyone else to register as voters? if u register in jan2011, your name will only be in the electoral roll by july 2011 --- that's 6 month away. u do the math. feb = aug2011, march = sept2011. if umno calls for ge13 any earlier, there is not much time left.
pls lah, where's the fiery momentum of march08?? hv u all gotten too comfortable?
pathetic. u all.
Raja · 13 hours ago
More than a decade ago, when Algeria was in civil conflict between extremists and the government of the day, one of the demands of the extremists was a similar form of proxy voting - whereby only menfolk could be physically present to vote for themselves and on behalf of the adult womenfolk in their family! The reason given was that women would not be able to make sensible choices! I didn't follow developments to their conclusion but I believe the proposal was not amongst those agreed for the restoration of civil order.
BigSpenders · 13 hours ago
BN sore losers!
yan · 13 hours ago
That's great. Please include those who are in oversea and cannot come back to vote.
Fabio1 · 13 hours ago
Guy BN and the current GOV is treating the Malaysians like fool its time to rise and protest and bring in the peoples voice
AsamKerepot · 13 hours ago
what a load of bollocks!
Disgusted · 12 hours ago
This is just another vote stealing mechanism by those in power. People, please protest with your MP to block this amendment. Only one vote for one person.
ShameOn1Msia · 3 hours ago
NEWEST VOTING SYSTEM in BOLEHLAND
1 person can now vote for 1 million
Bolehland’s Proxy Voting = Msians’ signing off their democratic rights to vote.
1)You want to report police………….sign off your voting right
2)You want a job with gov…………... sign off your voting right
3)You are illiterate ………………….. sign off your voting right
4)You want a gov contract…………… sign off your voting right
5)You don’t want a fine………………. sign off your voting right
6)You want gov fundings assistance…………….. sign off your voting right
7)You want renew license………………….. sign off your voting right
8)You are rural Malaysians…………… sign off your voting right
9)You are OKUs…………………………. sign off your voting right
This looks like the new way to blackmail Malaysians
Deal with the devil or be FORCED to……
1 person can now vote for 1 million
Bolehland’s Proxy Voting = Msians’ signing off their democratic rights to vote.
1)You want to report police………….sign off your voting right
2)You want a job with gov…………... sign off your voting right
3)You are illiterate ………………….. sign off your voting right
4)You want a gov contract…………… sign off your voting right
5)You don’t want a fine………………. sign off your voting right
6)You want gov fundings assistance…………….. sign off your voting right
7)You want renew license………………….. sign off your voting right
8)You are rural Malaysians…………… sign off your voting right
9)You are OKUs…………………………. sign off your voting right
This looks like the new way to blackmail Malaysians
Deal with the devil or be FORCED to……
These amendments MUST be rejected out of hand. We already have massive election frauds, including army officers filling out ballot forms on behalf of their men en masse. Postal votes are also totally discredited. This proves that UMNO/BN are sure that unless they cheat, there is no hope of them holding on to Putrajaya. This must be stopped!
WindsofChange · 2 hours ago
This is the EC (easy) way to legalise the phantom voters. Again, Only di Malaysia ini boleh!
Hi hope all of you are registered voters! Do spread the word abt voter registration events to your friends and family ya! Join the "I am a registered Malaysian voter" page on FB and follow "reg2vote" on Twitter. Thanks. Spread the word!
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